Anonsense

This was originally split into two blog posts but, since both deal with the anon accounts, I figured I would just publish them as one.

I wrote this a little while ago and then ummed and aahed about whether or not to post it because it’s been wonderfully quiet lately and I really didn’t want to stir anything up again. Unfortunately, when someone is posting lies about me and my friends, or misleading people, I have trouble staying silent. I also feel like the people running the main anon accounts have become kind of emboldened by people’s silence. Their comments appear to have been getting nastier and they are brazenly throwing around accusations that they probably wouldn’t have the balls to were they not protected by anonymity.

This first issue requires a little backstory to explain. One of EROS’ fans, “A”, decided to insert herself into the conversation a while back by addressing me by name, out of nowhere, insulting me for keeping a blog and likening me to a psychopath among other things. I decided to make a video response questioning her decision to call me out for no apparent reason so she responded by attacking my looks and calling me weird names (I used a filter and was belittled for “taking the time to do my makeup” or some bullshit). This is a woman I did not know. I found out who she was a short while after she called me out but, even then, I only recalled having maybe one or two small conversations with her during my time on the EROS discord.

I had all but forgotten about these initial interactions with her until it came to my attention that she was running around social media accusing me of being a romance author who had stolen her pen name. Needless to say I was bewildered and a little amused. I quickly refuted this on my social media accounts and checked in with the author in question to make sure she wasn’t receiving any dodgy reviews or threatening messages due to A’s claims. Thankfully she wasn’t.

I thought that refuting the statements would lay the entire thing to rest. Unfortunately, it would seem that noone around A has bothered to inform her that she is barking up the wrong tree. She continued making these unfounded claims on her social media accounts and even went so far as to attack another person because, well, turns out she mistook them for me.

I’ve been trying to ignore this because I’ve refuted it so many times already and I’m concerned about the author being dragged into this mess. I don’t know how much clearer I can be. Anyway, it keeps coming up and I wanted to address something that was brought to my attention recently.

I’ve been paying very little attention to the “anon” accounts because the mental gymnastics they go through in order to defend EROS is exhausting to witness and I have better things to do with my time. A has me blocked, which is good. Despite blocking me, however, she continues to mention me by name or allude to me while spreading this mistaken belief of hers so, as you can probably imagine, it will occasionally be brought to my attention.

Below you can see one of the screenshots taken from the @HopefulTruth444 account that has been active ever since the Hunbee account was created.

This is from a thread where those speaking out about EROS are being discussed, our families are being brought up and our parenting skills attacked. You know, the usual dull insults people with no real argument like to throw around.
A, once again, brought up her current fixation – me being an author who has stolen her pen name. She mentions the actual authors name and makes a sarcastic remark about the author’s bio.
I have blurred out both A’s name and the real author’s name because, for one, I don’t think the author’s name should be thrown around in this context when she has done absolutely nothing wrong and, secondly, I just don’t want to mention A’s name. Despite the fact she seems to jump on any opportunity to bring me up, her fixation on this situation she’s fabricated is getting a little worrying considering the fact I’ve repeatedly refuted it.

Below is another screenshot, again from the @HopefulTruth444 account that was aimed at the person who created the Hunbee account. The Hunbee creator, being the one A attacked over the stolen pen name because she mistook them for me. They got into an argument over the issue and “TruthSeeker444” decided to use this opportunity to call out the Hunbee creator and further push the false narrative that everything being said about EROS is lies. Snore.

A replied, stating that she screwed up, then brought Matthew Perry into it for some reason. Truthseeker then replied with some of the most hypocritical shit I’ve ever read. Par for the course really.

These “anon” accounts defending EROS are perfectly happy with using people and taking advantage in order to attack others, manipulate their readers or to undermine those speaking out against him. They will use any excuse to attack us.

They are fully aware of the fact A has been accusing me, and others, of stealing her pen name, she’s been dragging an indie author’s name publicly, and they know it’s all untrue. Yet, not once, do they correct A during any of their numerous discussions about us. Not even when she refers directly to it and uses the actual author’s name on their thread – insulting her.

You might be sitting there thinking, well, it’s not their responsibility to set A straight. I disagree. Truthseeker and these other anon accounts are using A’s mistake in order to attack EROS’ detractors. The only reason anyone has “talked shit” to, or about A, is because of her constant desire to call people out.

The only reason the Hunbee account creator even mentioned A was because A had been talking shit about her thanks to this delusional fantasy she’s created and her inability to tell people apart.

If the anons are going to use that in order to attack the Hunbee creator and EROS’ detractors, they could at least have the decency to tell A she is wrong and that she should stop mentioning the author’s name on their thread because they know damn well the author isn’t me and has nothing to do with any of this.

But they don’t. Because they don’t give a shit. They never have cared about anything other than continuing their fucking campaign of disinformation. The only time I’ve ever seen them try to stop one of his supporters from being a raging cunt was when the anon in question was making them all look incredibly bad and, even then, they still twisted it around as a way to attack us. “Don’t stoop to their level”. God. I can’t eyeroll hard enough.

“Stooping to their level does nothing” HEART
Aw. A beautiful red heart emoji for the anon running around being abusive on EROS’ behalf. How sweet. I’m not even going to discuss how incredibly insincere the rest of that comment is.

The “brainless” and “piggyback” comments were in response to one of EROS’ supporters who felt the need to insert herself to attack S. She deleted her comments rather quickly, though. I would guess a certain someone told her to remove them.

I love the use of language here: “bullying” to describe S’s behaviour, “attacking” for the anons. What sets her behaviour apart from their crew of anons exactly? They are running around, hiding behind anonymity making a coordinated effort to attack and insult anyone who speaks out about EROS. What do you call that, exactly? It looks to me as though Mordecai is just mimicking their bad behaviour. In fact, one could say they’ve encouraged this kind of anonymous “vigilante” bullshit.

“YoUr ChIlDrEn WeRe MEnTioNeD iN GeNEraL”

OmG I DoN’T ThReAtEn pEoPlE’S FaMiLiEs, I JuSt tHrEaTeN In gEnErAl. ThErE’S A DiFfErEnCe. GoSh.

It’s funny how age is suddenly relevant when making their ageist comments aimed at us, but not when discussing the inherent power imbalance present in content creator and fan relationships. So weird.
Who are you accusing of cyberstalking?

“No need to resort to their level”

“Do not stoop to their level”
“If you really do support Eros, then you know it’s not something he would want you to do”

Has he made a public announcement to let them know what kind of mob mentality behaviour is okay on his behalf and what isn’t? Have they been allocated a set of guidelines to follow when harassing the women speaking out about him? Or do they check-in every morning to get their orders in the mod channel?

The only reason the anon crew are chiding that other anon “Mordecai” is because they are desperate to paint anyone speaking out about EROS as a villain. Looks kinda bad when an anon supporter goes off book. However, I could probably find countless posts made by each of them that are just as awful as the ones that Mordecai person made.

Hmm, you’re right. You brought up ALL of our children.
So, tell me, what type of environment are you referring to exactly? Don’t hold back now. Exactly what “environment” am I subjecting my children to by calling out a man’s bad behaviour online? What type of “environment” am I subjecting my children to by defending myself against the lies of that man and his supporters? What am I subjecting them to by standing up for women who feel as though they were preyed upon by him, or pressured by him? When he states to his platform of followers that we are online rapists who take advantage of him when he allegedly drinks during stream. Oh, but he was just speaking generally, too, right? My bad. I’m sure none of you, or his other supporters, think he was talking about any of us when he called out the “aussies”. Must be some other aussies.

Stop pretending you care about anyone’s children. Your offense is performative and all it does is further expose just how comfortable you are advertising your ageism and other biases while you sit comfortably behind your shield of anonymity.
Why don’t you say those things to those of us with children with your real account?

Amazing how quickly the troops assemble to go on damage control when one of the EROS anon supporters behaves in a vile fashion. Shame they don’t hold themselves to the same standards.

They are right about one thing, though.

Being insulted by someone who refuses to be accountable for their own actions isn’t okay, but for all their blustering about accountability and lies they’ve not once held EROS or his supporters to the same standards they so zealously apply to everyone else.

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Oh look. It’s another of EROS’ Anon Crew. This one is not only hiding behind an alt account, but they also have me blocked.

Fair enough, though, right? Obviously I don’t actually care, I muted most of those accounts for a reason. There’s one teeny, tiny problem.

This one (and god knows how many of the others) seems to like talking about me on their account while they hide in their cosy little anon corner. This isn’t a private account, it’s public, so they’ve basically closed the door on me while they sit around talking absolute shit about me to everyone who happens across their page, free to continue spreading lies with impunity because I can’t respond directly. Since they have addressed me by name and I can’t respond on their post, I will respond on here.

Here’s the thing, EROS can bang on all he wants about how he’s “just a regular dude” but this doesn’t change the fact he’s a content creator with a platform who happens to have hurt and angered a lot of people. Those people are going to discuss it whether you want them to or not – you don’t control what people talk about and, as long as they aren’t lying, they can talk about it til their dying breath if they choose to. The anons running around screaming that we are all liars doesn’t magically make it so and won’t change what he’s done. He fucked up royally, he hasn’t taken any responsibility for it and he lets the anons run riot, dogpiling, insulting and harassing anyone who dares speak out about him. To be perfectly honest, those anons of his have been just as responsible as anyone else for the protraction of this issue thanks to their mob mentality and weird fucking commitment to lying in his defense.

And before anyone starts screaming about how he doesn’t “let” them do anything or doesn’t have anything to do with all the asshole anon accounts or impersonation accounts, save your fucking breath. He’s over there playing the victim, whining about how horrible we are to him even though he “never calls us out by name”, he’s never attacked us. Yeah no shit sherlock, he doesn’t need to use our names. He subtweets like a pro while his OGs and god knows who else run around, hiding behind anon accounts, doing all the attacking for him and he just sits back, allows it to happen, then rewards them for their efforts. That’s not to mention all the lying happening behind the scenes, in group chats and dms.

This would all be fine and dandy if he actually hadn’t done the things he’s been accused of. But he has and no amount of cherry-picking or disregarding the important details will change that fact.

Clearly they agree, the community has an ongoing issue with this kind of thing. Great.

We’ve what? “Exasperated it to the level it’s currently at”? Really?

As this charming individual mentioned themselves, anonymous threats are not something new to that community. When my friends began receiving them, EROS was informed. He didn’t speak to the community he claims to love so much about it, he did nothing.
All I know is that he blamed a vulnerable ex-member and then later blamed my friends, claiming it must have been someone in our circle sending the threats… because that makes so much sense. I mean, I guess it does make sense for him to think that when you consider the kinds of people he keeps close to himself.
It wasn’t until an anonymous account began attacking his girlfriend/s, and an OG allegedly received a call to her work, that he decided to address it (by accusing us of being behind it), and the anons supporting him followed suit.

Suddenly it fit the narrative. Suddenly they all cared.

The anons used those anon attacks as justification for having their own anon accounts, claiming they were scared of potential anonymous attacks and harassment – you know, the very thing they‘re all guilty of using their own anon accounts for.

The only thing they are all scared of is being held accountable for the nasty things they’ve been doing on behalf of EROS were they to be identified.

Name dropped?
Speaking about people we have had experiences with? Or alerting people to the fact one of the anons attacking us was one of his OGs, thus proving us right about who was behind their accounts and his involvement in their continued harassment of us? Is that what they mean by name dropped?

(The OG in question has since been promoted to Moderator of his discord. Go on, tell us again how he doesn’t approve of the mob mentality or anon accounts.)

Perhaps they mean like this?

That kinda name-dropping?
Did I miss the memo that said it’s only okay for the anons to name-drop?

I’m not sure what these people regard as “promoting vigilante justice” but, jesus wept, they are such hypocrites. They themselves encourage dogpiling, anonymous attacks, mob mentality, intimidation and victim-blaming, just to name a few.

That brings us to the “lies and misinformation” part of their accusations. I would love to know exactly what they are referring to here. Which part of this blog is lies and misinformation?

You know what happens when women speak out about men? It usually gives other women the courage to come forward themselves. Speaking out about a male content creator who has abused his relationship with his patrons is not “promoting vigilante justice”.

Here’s a hypothetical for you. Say a young woman approached you and said that a content creator had made her feel pressured into sharing nudes. She was repeatedly made to feel uncomfortable when interacting with him but didn’t know what to do about it because she felt she couldn’t refuse requests he made of her. She loved being a part of the community and she didn’t want to “upset” him… what would your response be? What would you do in that situation? Would you invalidate her feelings and experience by telling her she formed a “parasocial relationship” with a content creator and that it was entirely her own fault? Would you make her feel small by asking her why she didn’t just say no or leave? Or would you support her, validate her, assure her that the content creator should never have crossed those boundaries and that, doing so, was an abuse of his position.

Everyone saw what happened when Eggs came forward. She only shared a small portion of her interactions with him, but it was enough that anyone reading should have been able to recognise how vulnerable she was and that he should not have been engaging with her in private. What happened, though? Her screenshots were dissected and refuted in the most victim-blaming manner by the anon crew. She was dismissed and her experience invalidated. The anons constantly bang on about a lack of “proof” while they run around browbeating anyone who dares try to speak out into silence.

If you answered anything other than to be supportive in the above hypothetical, you need to work on your internalised misogyny and quit trying to silence people. It’s hard enough for women to speak out when it comes to things like this without a bunch of sycophantic fans intimidating them.

“Proudly spread doxing info”
Now they are accusing me of doxing EROS?

I have made this very clear from the beginning but it seems like these anons have trouble with comprehension so allow me to repeat myself. I have never shared any documents containing EROS’ personal information. I had no interest in seeing the documents that circulated earlier this year. For a long while I tried very hard to avoid the information because it seemed petty and frustrating to me that people were so caught up in attacking his looks and discussing other irrelevant information that just distracted from the real issue of his behaviour with his patrons. Obviously, after a point, it became virtually impossible to avoid certain things but I never sought it out, I just didn’t care about it. I have always defended a content creators right to anonymity online. Why would that change just because this particular content creator isn’t the good person he pretends to be? Do I think it’s right that anonymous content creators can behave disgustingly while hiding behind that shield of anonymity? No I don’t. Just like I don’t think it’s right that his anon supporters hide behind theirs while running their smear campaigns and spreading lies, rumours and half-truths about the women speaking out about him.

I am, however, fairly certain most of the dissemination of those documents was done by his curious “supporters”.

You should all tread carefully when lumping people together the way you seem to enjoy. If you want to accuse me of something illegal, use your name to do it.

As for refusing to acknowledge or apologise for the hurt I have caused? Is that supposed to be funny? Get some self-awareness.

The only accounts I know of who jumped on the bandwagon after Hunbee was created were the anons who have dedicated the past several months to defending a liar by attacking the women calling him out on his lies.

Just how long have these hate messages been happening? Sounds like it’s been an ongoing problem for years, yet him and his anons seem so eager to blame us for them. Why is that? Perhaps the same people responsible for sending them years ago are still responsible for them now. Maybe they all know who is doing it.

This particular anon says they’ve been a part of his community for years, so I guess they were aware of all the lying. I wonder if they knew he was sliding into fan’s lovense apps without consent. Did they know he was abusing his position in order to procure sexual images and videos from his supporters? Did they know sexting was occurring while he was “on the clock”? Did they know he lied through his teeth when he said he had a moral obligation to refuse that kind of attention from his fans because it would be an abuse of his position of power and influence?

Do the anons think it’s okay for him to claim those of us who speak out about him are just women who couldn’t take no for an answer? He’s constantly accusing his detractors of wanting him, being rejected and turning against him.
Do his supporters think it’s okay for a male content creator to accuse us of “violating his consent” when he’s the one who has, according to his own words, been abusing his position for three years?
Ohhh but that’s right, he “DoEsN’T calL uS oUt diREctLY”. How willfully ignorant can you get. Everyone knows exactly who he is speaking about whenever he subtweets. The anons and his more fanatical supporters parrot his words all over socials, decrying the alleged lack of consent and entitlement. They are all talking about us when they do that. They are talking about me. They are agreeing with him when he says that we wanted him, he said no and we went all single white female on his ass. He lies about us. He weaponises his fanbase and they all just let him. They go along with it. Why?

Do any of them question any of his behaviour, or do they just believe everything that comes out of his mouth despite the multitudes of women speaking out about him?

The fuck is wrong with you people.

Way to intentionally miss the point as usual.
He doesn’t care about the threats. He doesn’t address them. He knows damn well his community has had people making threats and attacking members anonymously for years. It’s his community for fuck’s sake, yet he doesn’t address it until his people are allegedly being attacked because only then does it fit his false narrative to do so.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there’s only, maybe, two things I regret since January and speaking out isn’t one of them. *shrug*

I will never think it’s “fucked up” to call out his and his supporters for their lies & disinformation. I will never feel guilty for standing up for the women whose trust he violated, or ashamed for defending them against a male content creator and the mob of sycophantic women who attack on his behalf.

What should I feel guilty and ashamed for, exactly?

I wonder if they feel guilt or shame for what they’ve been doing on behalf of some online man they barely know.

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Before I wrap this up I want to address the latest narrative he and his supporters have been pushing on socials.

Recently a few women were made aware that they were most likely being misled & manipulated by someone they thought they could trust. There was good reason for their trust in this person and they most definitely weren’t the only ones to have this trust violated.

As a result, the Hunbee page was deleted. While I could share my side of the story, I don’t know how much those women would be comfortable with me sharing, so I am not going to elaborate any further on the matter.

All I will say is that since EROS was informed that this person was allegedly behind some of the information that came out, the narrative has changed. Now he and his anon crew are claiming everything that has been said about him was based entirely upon lies.

No, but nice try. Keep it up, eventually you might trip over the actual truth.
What was “out of context”?

It’s out? What’s out, exactly? I, for one, would love to hear their version of events, since they weren’t even involved.

You know what I find really interesting? The fact the anon crew are incredibly comfortable with attacking and insulting someone who was so close to EROS during her time in the server. I didn’t even know S well, but I am well aware of the fact she was close to him.
For someone who likes to pontificate about friendship etiquette it’s really curious that EROS sits by and allows his anons to go after these women. I guess it achieves it’s purpose though, right. They harass and undermine with their cherry-picked arguments and disinformation and he keeps his hands clean so he can keep up the victim facade and deny responsibility for anything and everything.

What was a lie, exactly? Does anyone know what “the lie” was? This particular anon sure likes to give everyone the impression that they are so well informed.
I’ll say this to them, too: You want to make sweeping statements about doxing, use your name to do so, otherwise shut your gutless mouth.

Sigh. This is all so repetitive yet it’s nothing but empty words. They are saying nothing. Since what is all lies?

Gotta wonder why they haven’t all just asked EROS who the “manipulator” is, since they are so curious. Why not just ask him?

Hell, ask ol’ TruthSeeker, since they are a font of knowledge. Surely they know. Speaking of Truthseeker, they sure like that red heart, don’t they?

Did I just read that correctly? “I’m not the one speaking for someone who thinks it’s okay to not be accountable for the damages”?

Newsflash: You have been this entire time. Last I checked, EROS was a big boy who knew how to speak for himself. So why don’t you let him?
Don’t bother answering that, it was a rhetorical question. I know exactly why you speak for him.

When I see the anon accounts and his supporters intentionally undermine the women speaking out, for example, by surrounding the word victims in quotation marks, it makes me angry. It should make everyone angry. It’s dismissive, invalidating and it’s victim blaming at it’s finest.
Who would want to speak out when they would have to deal with that?

Needless to say, this latest narrative, like all the others before it, is categorically false. I cannot stress that enough. The anons are sparing no effort when it comes to spreading the false narrative that “it was all lies”, but they aren’t being forthcoming, nor are they being specific. Yes, someone was telling lies and probably still is, but so is he and so are they. They are purposeful in the way they speak in vague terms. Throwing the word “lie” around as much as possible, while never actually explaining what that lie is. Claiming EROS is vindicated and deserves apologies simply because someone close to EROS happened to lie to the Hunbee account creator, as though that magically erases all of the things he has done.

Don’t fall for it.

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The anons weaponise the mental health of him and others to paint those of us speaking out as villains, they insult us, our lifestyles, our families, telling us to “move on” and that we should get a hobby or get out more. They continue to name-drop and make claims about people that they can’t back up, all while constantly bemoaning the protraction of the situation.

It’s pretty simple, really, if you want me to stop talking about this, stop using my name to spread your false narratives. Stop lying about me. Stop accusing me of things I have not done.

Something happened with the Hunbee account? Oh, great, let’s call out Frontbum. Let’s lump Frontbum and these other women into this post accusing them all of doxing and lying.

Well, you called me out. I heard you. I’ve responded. I’m sure EROS really appreciates it. Maybe you will be rewarded and made a moderator, if you aren’t one already. Good luck with that.

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I’m not sure what their motive was in calling me out, since they know I haven’t done any of the things they mentioned. I can only assume that it was an all too familiar attempt to undermine me and the things I’ve said. Part of me believes they’ve gotten a little too comfortable behind their anon accounts, and the fact we’ve mostly been ignoring them has probably made them cocky. I’m sure they feel untouchable hiding behind those accounts they’ve created to intimidate people.

If I’m going to be perfectly honest, I’m frustrated. I was living in blissful ignorance for a while there and, as much as I wanted to continue on that path, I can’t ignore the fact they are lying about me and those lies are being shared by their little group of anonymous bullies. I resent the fact I am having to spend time defending myself against people who are, essentially, faceless cowards when I have done nothing wrong. I resent the fact I’m having to sacrifice my peace and expend emotional and mental energy dealing with this anon bullshit when I could be directing it toward people and things I actually love and enjoy.

And, no, I don’t take time out from my family to type these posts up or “obsess” over you lot. Don’t flatter yourselves, you aren’t that important.

The bottom line is that a male content creator was abusing his position with his fans. He was taking advantage of women who trusted and admired him. Women who wanted to impress him, wanted him to like them. You can sit there all you want and say, “well that’s not his problem” but it is. He’s even acknowledged that there is a power imbalance present between him and his fans but, despite this, he still fostered problematic relationships with many of them. He still became involved sexually with them only to turn around and cry “parasocial relationship” whenever a woman would become “too attached”. He lied about it repeatedly and continues lying about it. Instead of taking responsibility when called out, he lies about us and allows you all to attack us and spread lies about us.

How do you contend with a man who has a platform and fanbase that he can weaponise against you? How do you contend with faceless accounts that have been created to manipulate and undermine, knowing his OGs have created them, knowing he himself could be behind one of them? How do you contend with the countless lies that are circulating, the cherry-picked arguments, the strawman fallacies and half-truths?

You can’t. It doesn’t matter that he’s lied. It doesn’t matter that he’s done all of the things I’ve said in this blog, and more. It just doesn’t matter. There will always be women willing to overlook, willing to prioritise male validation over their friendships and willing to protect men who take advantage of other women.

There’s not much else to say. I’m tired so I’m going to bed.

Don’t mention my name again.